Very excited with Ancestry DNA ThruLines.. Sister and I have about 19% Welsh.. How is that possible? Our distant Carrow line matches are quite tangled both in Delaware Welsh Tract and Wales.. Angharad James is a sister of Owen David (Dafydd) a known ancestor who had Fox Hall Plantation.. Angharad James and her husband William Pritchard are pivotal to maybe 50 DNA matches to Wales.. People who still live in Wales.. Amazing!! So as I search.. Thrulines lets me click on my matches AncestryName to see if we match..It is awesome..
Sister and I share an enormous amount of Welsh cousins.. Four 4th cousins came in just in a week.. Colin and Rees Roberts and Dilys Parker have long been matches from 23andme but it seemed sort of flukey..
Where do they fit?
They have to fit in the Carrow line.. and NONE of our many Carrow DNA Cousins share them( so excited I have them) so maybe it is our Grandfather. This is why we do DNA. Many of them come from here Pwllheli Caernarvonshire
AncestryDNA with it's over 5 million matches have given us Janet Inglis Haydn Eryl Hughes, Annwen Hughes,Dylan Fôn Thomas and so on..
We ( Sister and I )each have TWO Geographic Communities from Wales with 40 or more cousin matches.. I also have 2 from Ireland and Sister has 3 from Ireland..
Blaine Bettinger has shared these tables with the ISOGG Facebook group.. a compilation of many of us and this year's version
Old Carrow Farm - Idalia Manor For my DNA friends and rellies..I may go ahead and blog this also as it seems important.My sister Carol Bodofsky ( my DNA buddy) and I have a LOT of DNA matches in Wales.. Yes the Carrow family is heavily Welsh between 1750-1840 but other cousins do not have all this Welsh.. Sister and I only have inherited about 15-17% of our DNA from our paternal grandfather.. (Which we knew before the 23ANDme test in 2009- from DNA Tribes c. 2008) my father's father who we assume is from Norway.. That leaves 34-35% of DNA inherited from Elizabeth Agnes Carrow..seen here as a young lady on Risnor Row..
We also share a good amount of Carrow matches to Baltimore cousins from Clara Carrow Friemiller.. Clara and her mother Margaret Edenfield share MitoDNA( female) with her mother Hannah.. who may or may not be a Worters.. the 1870 census calls her Worters but she was married to Edenfield then so is that accurate? None of us know or have been able to figure it out.. Paternal grandmother matches are particularly good for inheritance..( X markers come from there) I feel pretty sure now that Hannah, wife of Thomas Edenfield must have been Welsh or 1/2 Welsh and sister and I inherited a lot of that.. To that end I tested with Living_DNA and am waiting for results.. it is Welsh UK in origin.. My close Carrow match this weekend shares matches back to Baltimore cousins also, more so than other directions.. Tamyr and I also share those matches although she is NOT heavily Welsh.. Sister and I have been given TWO Welsh communities at AncestryDNA which seems significant..
A good puzzle for a rainy week..
Elizabeth Agnes Carrow - Risnor Row Penns Grove NJ
Important update to 23andmethe only testing company who does this.. Ron and Peter shown here.. and at bottom Carol and myself The X is particularly telling for brothers We’ve updated DNA Relatives and Share and Compare to show full and half-IBD (identical by descent) segments of DNA. You can see completely identical (purple) and half-identical (pink) segments on the Compare page, which you can access by clicking on any of your DNA Relatives matches, or on any of your sharing connections in Share and Compare. You won’t share fully-identical segments with all of your matches. Full siblings share a combination of fully-identical (purple) and half-identical (pink) segments. Fully-identical refers to stretches of the genome where the two siblings match each other on both pairs of the chromosome - both siblings inherited the same segment of DNA from both their mother and father. The relationship pictured is between two full sisters. Since half-siblings only share one parent, they will only see half-identical (pink) segments. March 16 update: Full and half-IBD segments are now also shown in the DNA view of DNA Relatives
Yesterday I was notified that I had matches at My Heritage. And so I did- 473 at this time. Many of them are said to be 3rd cousins.. A very respected blogger has an excellent blog at ISOGG today where she says she is having difficulty finding most of her matches at the 3 main testing sites. Nor am I finding mine and many are said to be 3rd cousin or 3C1x removed..Not at FTDNA,23andme,AncestryDNA or even Gedmatch. I suspect their imputing needs work. They had this to say on their blog: "MyHeritage has created and refined the capability to read the DNA data files that you can export from all main vendors and bring them to the same common ground, a process that is called imputation. Thanks to this capability — which is accomplished with very high accuracy " The matches remind me of what I have found at DNA Land. although I have only 4 there.
I will qualify this to say that I have purposefully made my tree at their site as less than 250 to keep it free.. so I cannot contact anyone but I CAN see their trees and their names.. and I am not finding them..
Importantly for my DNA and Genetic research into my family..( it's a rainy day so no outside work) is the fact that each of us unless we are twins receive 50% of our genome from our parents but NOT the same 50%.. Here is my sister Carol Bodofsky and me genetically from a start up but scientifically valid place..DNAland..frequesnted by all the experts
This is why I am testing sister at AncestryDNA where they are going towards 3 million testers. We will have about 20 % different 4th cousins.. a lot!
Thank you, Sister Carol Bodofsky Also this is why "we" ( Genetic Genealogists) all struggle with the idiosyncrasies of the 3 major testing companies and utilize Gedmatch and hang out at the same places.. Back to these pictures.. Sister and I share a whopping 50.4% of our genome with each other..same two parents..full siblings.. and so on..
The difference is that our grandparent share is different.. so what our parents got from THEIR parents is different. That of course is why we also, when possible share with first and second cousins.. they got some different genome pieces from their parents.. Children and grandchildren confirm the inheritance from grandparents.. I have tested 3 of them and get 22.9%, 23.1% and 17.1 %.. quite different..I was astonished but that was early in autosomal testing.. Sister and I were said to share only 15 and 17% from our Norway grandfather ..Norway apparently is a "crapshoot".. Our grandparent was born in Saami territory north of the Arctic Circle on the border with Russia and Finland. It's all exciting to me.. Guess that shows..