tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-62808739467579695862024-02-14T12:54:28.620-08:00 Carrow and Faunt Tales of Discovering My Family's RootsCarrow of US and England Member of Guild One-Name Studies ( Carowe,Carru, Carrew etc.)kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-24559549015260062982022-06-30T06:34:00.001-07:002022-06-30T06:34:27.411-07:00Military Monday ~ Veterans Day ~ Reunion on Pearl Harbor<br />
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<span style="color: #45818e;">My Dad William C. Carrow BM1 USN was my hero through life. He served here on the USS Hopping DE -155 where he was a plank holder.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #45818e;">The USS Hopping made nine convoy crossings of the Atlantic Ocean before being
sent to the Pacific. While in the Pacific, she withstood numerous Japanese air
attacks as well as at least one concealed enemy shore battery. Dad was offered the opportunity to apply for a medal for his effort to secure the ship after it was torpedoed. He never filled out the papers saying "Someone had to do it".</span><br />
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<span style="color: #0b5394;">My Uncle Francis Faunt served on the USS Cony DD-508 as a Torpedoman. <span style="color: #0b5394;">Cony was launched Christmas Day 1942 and then escorted a convoy from </span><span style="color: #0b5394;"> Norfolk VA </span><span style="color: #0b5394;">to </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noum%C3%A9a" title="Nouméa"><span style="color: #0b5394;">Nouméa</span></a><span style="color: #0b5394;">, New</span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Caledonia" title="New Caledonia"><span style="color: #0b5394;"> </span></a></span><span style="color: #0b5394;">Caldedonia, where she arrived 27 January 1943.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #0b5394;">From online chronology from sailors onboard I find that this file picture is the Cony in Pearl Harbor apparently in 1944. "<span style="color: #0b5394;">Cony received two bomb hits on her main deck, and these with a near miss killed 8 of her men, wounded 10, and caused considerable damage. She was towed into Port Purvis for emergency repairs.<span style="color: black;"> </span></span></span><span style="color: #0b5394;">She sailed from Port Purvis 4 May for Majuro and Pearl Harbor May 6th 1944.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #0b5394;">So it seems that the joyous reunion between my Dad and my Uncle Franny which was joined by Faunt cousins Gilbert Earle and George Wilson at Pearl Harbor happened between May 6th and June 15, 1944. Family!!</span><br />
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kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-77841989775660788272020-01-16T06:00:00.000-08:002020-01-16T06:05:54.128-08:002020- New Year New Me- Understanding my ethnicity better ~ Wales~<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: large;">I have not been blogging recently- a year for this blog it seems.. In 2003 when I started working with my ancestry, I knew little. With the advent of DNA, at about the same time that I found an Irish researcher, I made exponential gains in at least my maternal ancestors. DNA and Irish Records becoming digitized helped a lot, and my Faunt Swanson line was really not hidden.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">My father's maternal line was visible also, Carrow and Edenfield anyway were there for the taking in Delaware and Maryland. Kirwan and Sweeney eventually followed suit in New Jersey records.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">Dad's biological father was never known to him but some things must have been known. Rumors were his father was an uncle, or his stepfather, both of which have been discounted. Another rumor, ( Mom let things leak from time to time), was that Grandmother had more children and they went away somewhere.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">I had seen some close cousins with DNA ( 1st-2nd) that had both Kirwan and Carrow ancestors, which brought their parents down to 2 people, Grandmom or her brother. Those people never answered messages about themselves but this time last year one of them did. Oh My! Sister and I had had aunts, 2 of them. both younger than Dad.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">This huge breakthrough allowed me to begin to streamline Dad's bio father, who was NOT his sisters' father. My large amount of Welsh matches is leading me to be able to know at least my 3rd and 4th Grandparents who were from Wales. They are shared with upwards of 15 fairly close cousin matches ( 3-4th) who live in Wales and even speak Welsh.</span>kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-36127628489483116512019-05-13T08:29:00.000-07:002019-05-13T09:33:24.712-07:00Ancestry ThruLines and Angharad James Pritchard sister of Owen David<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #0b5394; font-size: large;"><b>Very excited with Ancestry DNA ThruLines.. Sister and I have about 19% Welsh.. How is that possible? Our distant Carrow line matches are quite tangled both in Delaware Welsh Tract and Wales.. Angharad James is a sister of Owen David (Dafydd) a known ancestor who had Fox Hall Plantation..</b></span><br />
<span style="color: #0b5394; font-size: large;"><b> Angharad James and her husband William Pritchard are pivotal to maybe 50 DNA matches to Wales.. People who still live in Wales.. Amazing!!<br /> So as I search.. Thrulines lets me click on my matches AncestryName to see if we match..It is awesome..</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d; font-size: large;"> They have to fit in the Carrow line.. and NONE of our many Carrow DNA Cousins share them( so excited I have them) so maybe it is our Grandfather. This is why we do DNA.<span class="_5mfr _47e3"><img alt="" class="img" height="16" role="presentation" src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/f57/1/16/1f609.png" width="16" /></span><br />Many of them come from here Pwllheli Caernarvonshire</span></div>
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Old Carrow Farm - Idalia Manor<br />
<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">For my DNA friends and rellies..I may go ahead and blog this also as it seems important.My sister Carol Bodofsky ( my DNA buddy) and I have a LOT of DNA matches in Wales..</span></b><br />
<b><span style="color: #b45f06;"> Yes the Carrow family is heavily Welsh between 1750-1840 but other cousins do not have all this Welsh..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">Sister and I only have inherited about 15-17% of our DNA from our paternal grandfather.. (Which we knew before the 23ANDme test in 2009- from DNA Tribes c. 2008) my father's father who we assume is from Norway.. That leaves 34-35% of DNA inherited from Elizabeth Agnes Carrow..seen here as a young lady on Risnor Row..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">We also share a good amount of Carrow matches to Baltimore cousins from Clara Carrow Friemiller..</span></b><br />
<b><span style="color: #b45f06;"> Clara and her mother Margaret Edenfield share MitoDNA( female) with her mother Hannah.. who may or may not be a Worters.. the 1870 census calls her Worters but she was married to Edenfield then so is that accurate? None of us know or have been able to figure it out..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">Paternal grandmother matches are particularly good for inheritance..( X markers come from there)</span></b><br />
<b><span style="color: #b45f06;"> I feel pretty sure now that Hannah, wife of Thomas Edenfield must have been Welsh or 1/2 Welsh and sister and I inherited a lot of that..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">To that end I tested with Living_DNA and am waiting for results.. it is Welsh UK in origin..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;">My close Carrow match this weekend shares matches back to Baltimore cousins also, more so than other directions..</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #b45f06;"> Tamyr and I also share those matches although she is NOT heavily Welsh..</span></b><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b> Sister and I have been given TWO Welsh communities at AncestryDNA which seems significant.. </b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: medium;"> The X is particularly telling for brothers </span><br />
<span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: medium;"> We’ve updated DNA Relatives and Share and Compare to show full and half-IBD (identical by descent) segments of DNA. You can see completely identical (purple) and half-identical (pink) segments on the Compare page, which you can access by clicking on any of your DNA Relatives matches, or on any of your sharing connections in Share and Compare. </span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000; font-size: medium;">You won’t share fully-identical segments with all of your matches. Full siblings share a combination of fully-identical (purple) and half-identical (pink) segments. Fully-identical refers to stretches of the genome where the two siblings match each other on both pairs of the chromosome - both siblings inherited the same segment of DNA from both their mother and father. The relationship pictured is between two full sisters. Since half-siblings only share one parent, they will only see half-identical (pink) segments. </span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #990000; font-size: medium;">March 16 update: Full and half-IBD segments are now also shown in the DNA view of DNA Relatives</span></span><br />
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kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-40899398743607567612017-02-16T15:30:00.002-08:002017-02-16T15:49:39.899-08:00Thrifty Thursday - Family Tree DNA now accepting autosomal DNA transfers from new AncestryDNA and 23andMe tests ~ <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b><span style="color: #990000;">Everyone</span></b></i><b><span style="color: #990000;"> </span>who has been waiting for new AncestryDNA transfers and new 23andme (V4) here it is.. it seems to be free but then to get "everything" it is $19..</b></span></div>
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<span style="color: #cc0000;"><b><i>You’ve all been waiting for it</i></b></span>, and it’s finally here - transfers for 23andMe© V4 and AncestryDNA™ V2 files!</div>
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•Customers can now transfer 23andMe© V4 and AncestryDNA™ V2 files in addition to the 23andMe© V3 and AncestryDNA™ V1 files that Family Tree DNA accepted previously. MyHeritage and Genographic transfers will be supported in the coming weeks.</div>
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•Family Tree DNA still does not accept 23andMe© processed prior to November 2010. A Family Finder test will need to be purchased.</div>
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•23andMe© V3 and AncestryDNA™ V1 now receive a full list of matches and the ability to use the Matrix feature FOR FREE. For only $19, the customer can unlock the Chromosome Browser, myOrigins, and ancientOrigins.</div>
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Here is a link where you can read about it.. <a href="https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/imports/autosomal-transfer/family-tree-dna-family-finder-transfer-program/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.familytreedna.com/…/family-tree-dna-family-fin…/</a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;"><i>Remember</i></span> </b>that I do have the <i style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: large;">Carrow, Faunt, Rementer and Lower Delmarva </span> </i>surname groups that you are welcome to join..kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-54895710172232478252016-09-07T05:52:00.000-07:002016-09-07T05:52:07.708-07:00MyHeritage matches- Where? How?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i>Yesterday </i> I was notified that I had matches at My Heritage. And so I did- 473 at this time. Many of them are said to be 3rd cousins..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"> A very respected blogger has an excellent blog at ISOGG today where she says she is having difficulty finding most of her matches at the 3 main testing sites. </span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;">Nor am I finding mine and many are said to be 3rd cousin or 3C1x removed..Not at FTDNA,23andme,AncestryDNA or even Gedmatch.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;">I suspect their imputing needs work. They had this to say on their blog: "MyHeritage has created and refined the capability to read the DNA data files that you can export from all main vendors and bring them to the same common ground, a process that is called imputation. Thanks to this capability — which is accomplished with very high accuracy "</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;">The matches remind me of what I have found at DNA Land. although I have only 4 there.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;">I will qualify this to say that I have purposefully made my tree at their site as less than 250 to keep it free.. so I cannot contact anyone but I CAN see their trees and their names.. and I am not finding them..</span><br />
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kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-9704157201300480262016-05-03T08:23:00.001-07:002016-05-03T08:23:25.775-07:00Tuesday's Tip - genetic generational sharing <br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Importantly for my DNA and Genetic research into my family..( it's a rainy day so no outside work) is the fact that each of us unless we are twins receive 50% of our genome from our parents but NOT the same 50%..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;"> Here is my sister Carol Bodofsky and me genetically from a start up but scientifically valid place..DNAland..frequesnted by all the experts</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">This is why I am testing sister at AncestryDNA where they are going towards 3 million testers. We will have about 20 % different 4th cousins.. a lot!</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Thank you, Sister Carol Bodofsky </span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Also this is why "we" ( Genetic Genealogists) all struggle with the idiosyncrasies of the 3 major testing companies and utilize Gedmatch and hang out at the same places..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Back to these pictures.. Sister and I share a whopping 50.4% of our genome with each other..same two parents..full siblings.. and so on..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">The difference is that our grandparent share is different.. so what our parents got from THEIR parents is different.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">That of course is why we also, when possible share with first and second cousins.. they got some different genome pieces from their parents..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Children and grandchildren confirm the inheritance from grandparents.. I have tested 3 of them and get 22.9%, 23.1% and 17.1 %.. quite different..I was astonished but that was early in autosomal testing.. Sister and I were said to share only 15 and 17% from our Norway grandfather ..Norway apparently is a "crapshoot"..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;"> Our grandparent was born in Saami territory north of the Arctic Circle on the border with Russia and Finland.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">It's all exciting to me.. Guess that shows..</span><br />
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kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-44936822795392747642016-03-15T08:44:00.001-07:002016-03-15T10:38:29.758-07:00Tuesday Tip - Making a DNA ONLY Family Tree<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">AncestryDNA requires a family tree for any success, a reason that I was dragged kicking and screaming to test there. As they pass 1.5 million testers I know that I was wrong in that - but AncestryDNA still has a downside. The downside is that there is no chromosome browser so what segment you inherited from a common ancestor cannot be checked. Presumably that is their own internal "control issue" so that there is less criticism of their matching.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">They also came out with a "New " Ancestry genealogy software.. another thing that many of us "old timers" at DNA testing objected to. The visuals were disturbing but OH!! They were correct about the matching being state of the art!</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">So this month they came out with a NEW visual change which allows one to choose the color background for trees. Great job, Ancestry! I chose plum after looking them over carefully.</span></b><br />
<b><span style="color: #990000;"> Here it is: </span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">About the Tree..Yes it is really necessary..What I have done in the interest of some privacy of records is to make an "Ancestry ONLY Tree" which of course is public. Other trees I have and working trees are still PRIVATE and invitation only.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">I do not have my children and their relationships in this tree..It goes out 6-7 generations and I only add collateral relatives ( siblings, aunts, cousins) when DNA matches have indicated I should.</span></b><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;"> <b> <span style="font-size: large;">My 2016 Brick Walls</span></b></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>I have been working on brick walls in my line this week and will continue to do so. Another researcher has blogged about hers- what a good idea! </b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>With all DNA tests I have about 5586 cousin matches at the three main sites. That does NOT include matches that my sister and first and second cousins have that I did not inherit. Wow a lot of folks! So why do I have a brick wall?</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>Charles Swanson is my 3rd great grandfather. That information was not known in my family when I began working on my genealogy 13 years ago. The family tale was that we were the "Colonial Swedes" Swanson line- like Gloria Dei Church? Swanson Street? See that picture up there?</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>Well what I found was an Andrew Swanson and a Charles Swanson living in Philadelphia in Southwark by the early 1800s. Charles Swanson was a river pilot and called "Captain" who died on his vessel in August 1849 of cholera. At that time my John Swanson was living in Beverly NJ as were two other men, Edward and William Swanson.</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>Were they all related? No one at that time really knew. The widow of Captain Swanson, Letitia, maiden name unknown, was living in Southwark with three</b></span><b style="color: #b45f06;"> daughters, a son in law and two grandchildren. Two other sons were living in Philadelphia.</b><br />
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<b style="color: #b45f06;">Andrew Sw</b><b><span style="color: #b45f06;">anson, w</span></b><b style="color: #b45f06;">ho likely is brother to Charles, is a merchant with one daughter. Charles Swanson names a son Andrew and both are from Sweden. Andrew, born in Goteborg Sweden, interestingly enough, was impressed off a British ship which explains how he got to US. This: </b><b style="color: #b45f06;">"</b><b style="color: #660000;"> </b><b><i><span style="color: #990000;">Peter Coleman and Andrew Swanson, both Swedes, were impressed at Port Royal, Jamaica, on the 8th September 1796 from on board the Brigantine Betsey, by his Britannic Majesties ship Alfred . Samuel Holt of Philadelphia was Captain of Betsy and was affiliated with Old Swedes Church"</span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>For sure I know now, that Charles and Andrew are related, as between my first and second cousins, myself and my sister, we have about 15 DNA 4th and 5th cousin matches with descendants of an older brother of John Swanson and also a younger sister. Proof!</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>The problem is this: What was Letitia Swanson's maiden name? Do any of these DNA matches come from her line wherever that is from? Her older and younger sons sometimes say she is from Sweden and sometimes say that she is from New Jersey but speaks Swedish. The "Colonial Swedes" idea again.</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>Was she from an early Swedish family? A Swedish researcher has indicated to me that it is quite likely as this was very early for Swedish emigration. Our family is NOT the original Swansons who settle in the Valley.</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;"><b>I need help. Who is Letitia? These names come up on DNA matches whose family is in Burlington County or Gloucester County NJ: Matlack, Holt, Horton, Dalbow, Mattson, Engle.</b></span><br />
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<br />kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-21370488241276015032015-10-01T08:27:00.002-07:002015-10-01T08:27:55.802-07:00Those Places Thursday - My DNA matches to Wales - Wilds,David,Rees,Jones,Tilton and Carrow<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #38761d; font-size: large;"><b><i>I have three( at the very least) 4th cousin DNA matches to men who still live in the UK and we ( Jones,Kitson,Stanley) have puzzled to figure this out.. 4th cousin is close ancestrally but if the families are interrelated it can look like that..</i></b></span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d; font-size: large;"><b><i>We do know as we all four share the same segment of DNA that we share an ancestor..</i></b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d; font-size: large;"><b><i>New research in the form of Delaware Land Records have gotten me back further and more definitive emigrations times: </i></b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i><b>"</b>In 1703 they removed to the land purchased by them in Pencader Hundred, and built a meeting-house on the site of the present church. In the same year the membership was increased by the addition of Thomas John, and Rebecca, from Wales; and by profession of faith and baptism, John Wild, Thomas Wild, Samuel Wild..."</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i>and.." Evan Rees and James Howell were the heads of </i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> Creek hundred in 1733, having come hither, with </i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> David Rees, Evan David Hughs and Joshua Ed- </i></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> wards), from the Welsh Tract in Pencader hundred, </i></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> and were members of that church. (Morgan Ed- </i></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> wards's ''History of the Baptists in Delaware.") </i></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> According to this historian, the first emigration </i></span><br />
<span style="color: #b45f06; font-size: large;"><i> from the Welsh Tract into Duck Creek hundred </i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d; font-size: large;"><i><b>My John Carrow born in 1783 is thus mostly Welsh.. South Wales..</b></i></span>kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-23689390341630806172015-09-30T11:17:00.001-07:002015-09-30T11:17:58.489-07:00Wisdom Wednesday - A Genie Friend's Tip- Delaware Land Records at Ancestry - Joshua and Nathaniel Wilds<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #e69138;"><b>My John Carrow lives on Nathaniel Wilds plantation and we think due to that that his wife is Jean( Jane) Wilds. He is entitled to rents from that land, however how and why Joshua Wilds comes there has been shrouded in mists. This shows some clarity and also sheds light on his ancestry as this land record indicates that the older Nathaniel Wilds in Pencader Hundred is his brother. </b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;"><b>William Carrow his uncle is born in New Castle County which had also been a puzzle. Light is beginning to dawn for me as I read how Joshua got into Kent County. They are Welsh Tract Welsh.</b></span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">"John Kirkpatrick is witness to a 17 May 1735 deed between Nathaniel Wilds,</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;">sadler of Newcastle County upon Delaware, PA and Joshua Wilds, farmer, of </span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;">Cecil County."</span><br />
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<b><i><span style="color: #cc0000;">Mary Wilds - 28 May 1733- St.Maryanne's Parish, Cecil Maryland to Joshua Wilds and Ruth.</span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">" Deed 23 Nov. 1739. Ruth Wild of Kent Co., Widow & Admin of hr husband</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> Joshua Wild, dcd, also Admin of her brother-in-law Nathaniel Wild dcd.,</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> and Esther Lewis of Pencader Hd in NCC for 23 pounds sold to Benjamin</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> Elder of Mill Creek Hd in sd Co., their share of messuage tract cont</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> 150 acres sit. in Pencader Hd. Formerly belonged to David THOMAS</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> dcd... by Thomas' Last Will, 3/4 of sd Messuage tract was made over to</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> afsd Joshua Wild, Nathaniel Wild & Esther Lewis. Bounds land of John</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> England, dcd David Jones, John Evans dcd, Benjamin Cooke and Joseph</span><br />
<span style="color: #38761d;"> Brown. Signed Ruth Wild, Esther Lewis. Wits John Griffith, Thos James</span><br />
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<br />kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-42928249749021106452015-07-23T06:32:00.000-07:002015-07-23T06:32:03.206-07:00Those Places Thursday- Delmarva from where exactly?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
As I get older ( this week a milestone birthday) I am particularly interested in knowing where, perhaps 1,000 years ago, my ancestors lived. John Edenfield and William his brother who find their way to Kent County Delaware near Dover at their deaths. They are said to be born in Ovendon Yorkshire and their father and grandfather dies near Halifax Yorkshire</div>
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<strong><br /></strong>Rebecca French Wilson who married a cousin Thomas Wilson and was widowed then marries John Edenfield and becomes son-in-law to William Winsmore who had the estate called"Pipe Elm".<br />
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Rebecca's mother Elizabeth was a French who had children with her first husband Matthew Wilson and a daughter Mary with her 2nd husband William Winsmore a prominent planted and settler.<br /><strong><br /></strong>"Wilson, Mathew Of Somerset County, by 1672 transported himself, Elizabeth, his wife, Cornelius Scull, John Collinson, William Thompson, Joseph Thompson, & Mathew Wilson and Wilson, and By 1667 transported himself, Elizabeth his wife & Elizabeth his daughter"<br />
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"Deposition. Christopher Cockram aged about 49 years being legally sworn, saith that about 23 years ago he did live then on the plantation that had been Thomas Willson's being pt/o a tr of land called Great Pipelm, then in possession of John Edenfield who intermarried Rebecca, widow & relict of Thomas Willson, & this deponent saith that about the time afsd there happened a difference about the bounds between Richard Nixon & the afsd John Edenfield who said that as Richard Nixon had possett on his land, that he would press & have his quantity of land out of the land of William Winsmore, who carried said John Edenfield unto a black oak standing near a swamp (sw from said tree, now dead, standing nw by n 21 ft from a white oak, this day marked by Samuel Galloway for Joshua Nickerson & George Hart & George Robisson parties concerned in order to perpetuate their bounds) & that said Wm Winsmore at the time, about 23 years ago, said in this deponent's hearing unto John Edenfield that the dead black oak before mentioned was the first bounded tree of his land & that he could not come any farther into his land & farther saith that said Wm Winsmore brought Benjamin Shurmer to survey the trs of land in dispute who begun the first butt at the black oak now dead, and further saith not. Before me Jno David. Attest. Jno Housman re "<br />
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<span style="color: #8e7cc3;">Medals were framed by his nephew James Gunn Ingram and sent back to Scotland to his namesake, Ian Robert Gunn.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #8e7cc3;">Private Robert Gunn, January 24, 1944, Monte Cassino Italy. Robert Gunn worked for the Railroad and had a deferment but volunteered to enlist. He was a private in the York and Lancaster Regiment and received the UK Army Roll of Honor.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #8e7cc3;">Between 17 January and 18 May, Monte Cassino and the Gustav defences were assaulted four times by Allied troops, the last involving twenty divisions attacking along a twenty-mile front. The German defenders were finally driven from their positions, but at a high cost. The capture of Monte Cassino tolled some 55,000 Allied casualties, with German losses being estimated at around 20,000 killed and wounded.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #38761d;">Louis G. Carrow was my Great Uncle, my Grandmother's younger brother and also died in Italy. He was 18 years old when he died in Nettuno Italy serving in 7th Infantry Regt. Third Infantry Division. He was reinterred in Baltimore National Cemetery in 1948.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e06666;">George Patrick Faunt was also my Great Uncle, a much younger brother of my Grandfather Edward Faunt. He was born in Penns Grove New Jersey in 1918 and also died in Italy in 1944. He left a widow who gave birth to his posthumous son 4 months later and his widowed mother</span><span style="color: #990000;">.</span><br />
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After a neat overnight getaway, I came back to find I had a new ancestral couple from AncestryDNA..Really? Where can this couple fit? I am not all all sure although they tell me this:<br />
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They seem to be proving this via some sketchy looking trees which at least 3 people have different relatives in.<br />
My Circle above to Francis and Catherine Rementer works better BUT one of those 4 people has an incorrect ancestor and is not descended directly from Francis or his wife.So they are basing this on what? Other people's incorrect trees?<br />
WHICH Ancestor is it linked to,surely not both as we inherit from one ancestor and not a pair?<br />
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I cannot find anyone in this tree any where at all. This line of Houk's seem to move directly from Berks County PA to Tennessee and then Texas? Cotton farmers it is said in this catchy little anecdotal blurb they have shared with me.<br />
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The problem is that ALL of my own ancestors have remained in either the Delaware Valley or the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake Bay. Collateral relatives of my ancestors would not be my relatives would they?<br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">14 Leaf hints and one 4 person circle with one of those someone who does NOT share the ancestor with the rest of us although he has not fixed his tree or answered any emails..</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;"> For 23andme I currently have 1206 matches ( I rid myself of some 200 unresponsive distant matches a year or two ago)</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;">10 are close relatives that I have tested.. 8 are 2-3rd cousins ( including the TWO Cousins who tested at Ancestry)</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;">and 449 more or 4th cousins.. 467 total if you include the 18 close matches..</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;">My Sister has MORE 4th cousins.. 526 including the close matches..at 23andme</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;">At FTDNA I have 665 matches TOTAL and 8 are closer than 4th.. most known to me.. and 22 for sure closer than 5th cousins.. then it drops off quickly..</span></div>
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<span style="color: #e69138;">AncestryDNA is making many many terrible mistakes with their product.Last week they blogged at Roots Tech about their improved Circle which would make Trees unnecessary.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Here is what happens without accurate records. In my only Circle at AncestryDNA I have 4 people. One person does not descend from my Francis X. Rementer at all,but from someone else via this Frederick Rementer. He does not seem to know this although he did once have it in his Tree. This death certificate ( from Ancestry.com) proves it..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Everyone is moving towards a One World Tree which has vast and awful implications I think..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">I am not cooperating with anything besides my own basic lines. I started to put a Tree on Family Search.org but they started to load incorrect information so I took it out.. and they reprimanded me saying that I had removed other people's information..which was untrue.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">" Dear Kathleen Carrow Ingram,</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">According to our research, you have recently deleted more than 25 records from Family Tree. Deleting records that you have not contributed will affect family history work of others...</span><br />
<span style="color: #e69138;">Just as a reminder, Family Tree is an open-edit, collaborative system. There are no private records or pedigrees in Family Tree, except those records of living individuals that you create... If you wish to have private records of your ancestors, we suggest you use a personal computer program that is not online"</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">What I actually DID do is to delete a Tree that I was building on my own sign in at their site. Shame on me!!</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">My Heritage for me is free at this point in time but to confirm anything it wants to upgrade to Premium.. I only intend to have a tree less than 250 nodes( people?) so that it remains free.. so I cannot ever confirm anything..and just at 23andme.. if they expand it, I will expand it but for right now it does not allow me.. I do have all of my genetic relatives attached to the 23andme tree.. 11 of us connected..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">Others use Familysearch.org.. Can it stay private? Does anyone have a Tree there? Thinking about that one also since record search is free..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">However Ancestry.com which is decidedly NOT Free and that I pay through the nose to use as World Deluxe ( Irish and UK records) is likely what I will stay with..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">My Tribal Pages Tree may remain but I am NOT going to upgrade to premium this year as Ancestry.com has my major Tree..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">There is a Tree of sorts at FamilyTreeDNA but it is not a good one I don't think..</span><br />
<span style="color: #3d85c6;"> I should go and look and make sure the Gedcom is current.. which it probably is NOT</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">Software does not work for me..Twice I purchased Family Tree Maker and it crashed completely..</span><br />
<span style="color: #3d85c6;"> I do have the free Legacy software that also lets me keep records but if my computer crashed then that crashes also..</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">SOOO Ancestry.com it is for now..</span><br />
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I received my results back Easter weekend and was very pleasantly surprised to identify a known Carrow descendant, and her brother as my 4th cousin. At some point I realized I had cousins in this database who shared my Kirwan/Sweeny line. </span><br />
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There were other matches, not surprisingly, since I had at that point more than 11,500 matches.Eventually that amount topped out over 13,000 a ludicrous amount.A long anticipated and discussed "correction" of these matches, the majority of which were supposedly "IBS" or Identity by State was to happen late in 2014. IBD means we inherit genes from a parent and IBS essentially means they could be not ancestral at all.</span><br />
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This correction when it occurred left me with 11% of the matches that I had 5 minutes before. This fact is known because Ancestry saved the whole big mess from before as a download. I was able to look and see that one Kirwan cousin was my match #865 and his son #866 prior to the match. After the correction they moved up to #11 and #14 and jumped into my field of vision.</span><br />
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Other persons moved down in hierarchy ( if there is a hierarchy based on relatedness) and of course 89% of those matches disappeared. I sadly waved goodbye to some small Carrow matches and a few Fant from Virginia matches, who I never felt could be real anyway. My Kirwan 3rd cousin with a known ancestral ties to me moved from #24 to #57 and he tells me that I was once quite high on his list and now #27. He is still my third cousin of course but it is important to look at all changes and try to understand them.</span><br />
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AncestryDNA's white paper discusses ancestral "pile ups" and as an attempt to visualize them I went into Gedmatch today and posted the result of </span><b><i><u><span style="color: #3d85c6;">MATCHES ABOVE IN BLUE</span></u></i></b><span style="color: #cfe2f3;">. Some of it I do see here or what I think it is because one of my Kirwan cousins is on here in an area begun and dominated by my Faunt cousin Francis. Odd as I do know that these cousins do not share my Limerick Faunts or my Donegal Dugans with me. </span><br />
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I am concluding at his moment that some of these segments are as a result of very very old DNA from Ireland, surely an example of "by state", in this case the SNPs are pointing to a shared ancestral region shared by many. I also realize that this is not an accurate representation of "pile ups" but since Gedmatch came up today I took a peek at the segments I was questioning.</span><br />
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AncestryDNA does not yet market their product in the UK so it is possible their algorithm has excluded or included certain ancestral populations or is skewed in some other fashion not yet clear to me. 23andme has begin their UK and Canadian marketing push and they will incorporate some of the "nodes" of ancestral couple in their collaboration with My Heritage which has begin it's work.</span><br />
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kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-58234967178807847072014-11-30T10:02:00.000-08:002014-12-01T05:13:57.359-08:00Church Record Sunday - Parochial Registers of Borris Carlow ~ Kirwans and DNA ancestors <br />
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Apparently a few years ago a cousin contacted me whose ancestor Anna Kirwan Downey was sister to my Great Grandmother Sadie Kirwan Carrow. Sadie and Annie were daughters of Patrick Kirwan and Lizzie Sweeney. The Sweeny/Huey line is well documented in NJ and Leckpatrick Tyrone.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">This 3rd cousin turned up on my AncestryDNA 2 months ago and also matches another person who is a 3rd cousin. Our common ancestral segment can be seen below on Chromosome #13. Cousin #3 has no known Kirwans or Sweeneys but her ancestry is known to her and is recent.She and I are the large 51.6 cm and the smaller 8 cM .</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Enter Cousins 4 and 5 a week or so ago also at AncestryDNA. Well Cousins 4 and 5 were THERE prior to AncestryDNA's refinement as # 865 and #866...What?? After the refinement they now comfortably rest at #s 11 and 14 and are father and son. </span> </div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Cousins 4 and 5 also descend from Kerwins with the given name of Sylvester which is found in my Kirwans. They have an ancestral area of Carlow. So John McDermot my friendly Irish researcher and I put our heads together, and with some other clues (Patrick's 2nd marriage to a girl from Borris Knockroe) finally, 8 years after the fact have found Patrick's birth.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">As he always said in documents his parents were Michael Kirwan and Jane/Jenny Kelly and they married and had 5 ( at least ) children in Borris Carlow between 1843 and 1855. Here is Patrick's birth from Parochial records: 27 Mar 1853-Pat, Mick Kirwan & Jane Kelly with sponsors James Hickey & Maria Kirwan Knockroe.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Wait!! Not only do we not find Sylvester Kirwan/Kerwin in this happy little group but the DNA looks like what I am showing below so does not match with what the other 3 inherited.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Directly above is Cousin 3 with cousin 5, Cousin 2 with Cousin 5 is right below that I have a Chromosome # 10 match of 29cM with Cousin #5( Not shown) ..Who only in the last week had moved up at AncestryDNA from # 865 to projected Cousin #11 in my Top 25 cousins.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Thankfully, Cousin 2 has now tested at my urging at 23andme and moved his Ancestry results into FTDNA and Gedmatch and cousins 3,4 and 5 are at Gedmatch and FTDNA where these results are from. </span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">My moral here is that despite BIG matches and common geographic locations we do not always know our DNA ancestors for sure, although we see that we are related. </span></div>
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<span style="color: #f1c232;">Thanks to an informative series of posts this weekend at ISOGG and with some insight from an abstract posted by Debbie Kennett, I am realizing that I have miles to go before we solve this mystery. The abstract had to do with how many genetic relatives we might have in common and all of these cousins seem to share more than one other family with me and each other. How many? It remains to be seen.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #990000;"><b><br /></b></span>kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-35427907502295570692014-11-12T09:53:00.002-08:002014-11-12T09:53:32.989-08:00Wordless Wednesday - Patrick Kirwan,Lizzie Sweeney and/or their parents<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
<b>Utilizing DNA involves choosing a company that has tools to use. These colors represent DNA that 3 persons and myself received from a common ancestor to me. <span style="color: #e69138;">This Person</span><span style="color: #b45f06;"> </span>does not match<span style="color: #38761d;"> </span><span style="color: #6aa84f;">This Person</span> however. <span style="color: #3d85c6;">This Person </span>and MYSELF match all of them.</b></div>
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<br />kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-10064393058700317502014-11-06T08:46:00.002-08:002014-11-06T08:46:38.861-08:00Treasure Trove Thursday - 1821 Irish Census Fragment - Brady in Cavan and Meath<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #b45f06;">What I am wondering is if I am making myself confused, or did all of the Bradys and Kirwans in my line leave for America from this area. Is it the same area really though? Census fragments only show part of it apparently.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;">There are two Sylvester Bradys living in Cavan or Meath at this time and are they the same family.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;">Sylvester Brady is a policeman and marries a Bridget Hood( or Flood) Jan 1, 1859 in Bohermeen Meath, near Navan where I think this Sylvester dies.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;">Another Sylvester Brady marries Rose Cook in Mt.Nugent( per the record) or Mountnugent in 1846. This is in Cavan and Meath, or at least the village is in Meath and not too distant from Butlers Bridge where my rleated Bradys came from.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #b45f06;">I also found this in a public Tree of descendants of the second Sylvester Brady which makes me wonder if this is my family also:</span><br />
<span style="color: #990000;"></span><span style="color: #45818e;">" The pages that she made are glued into a bible that came across on a sailing ship which left Waterford in 1866 in the possession of Maria (spoken "Mariah") then 14 years old. According to four originally blank pages in that bible which evidently were meant to record things like births and deaths, etc., and preceding those that my grandmother glued into that bible, was documentation written by the parish priest of Kilbride Parish in Mt. Nugent (because he was the only one that could read or write given the English Penal Laws on the Irish Catholics at that time); it states that seven of the ten children were going to go to America on a sailing ship and only three sons, Timatay, Edward and John, were to stay in Mt. Nugent to tend to their home and parents on the "Tonagh land" in Mt. Nugent. "</span>kathlingramhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6280873946757969586.post-44577389146926648292014-08-31T06:33:00.002-07:002014-08-31T06:33:29.720-07:00Census Sunday - Friends of Friends From the Delaware Archives<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Although not exactly from the census but records, for sure, I discovered the Collections Gateway from the Delaware Public Archives. Searchable and downloadable for a lot of indexes, this one was Apprentice Indentures. I looked up my Carrows and found who was apprenticed to who and found Timothy Carrow apprenticing two females for household servants.Emily Wright, who I find in the census as Eunity Wright and Sarah Elizabeth Duff.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">I want to note that these indentures did not note race. Carrows who were not of color were indentured also as it was how life training took place. One Carrow man, Goldsmith Day Carrow who in later years was a prominent minister and missionary in his youth was apprenticed as a tailor. In using this index I was able to look into the past for several lines of my own family.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Eunity Wright is found in the household of Timothy Carrow in 1867 as a 3 year old and is described as white but I later find her listed as black. The Apprentice record calls her Emily but I think this is her. She is apprenticed for 15 years on 6 Feb 1869. In 1800 at 14 she and a Renatta Clarkson, same age, were living in Little Creek Delaware in the household of Benjamin Hamm. In the 1900 census, on June 5th, she is in the household of Sallie Morris and it is stated she is a widow and mother of 2 children not living. 6 Dec 1901 she marries James H. Collins, 45, of Leipsic who is son of John Collins and Lidia. Eunity Collins dies 21 Jul 1905 in Dover. I do not find James Collins after that, although he had a large family of origin with brothers Isaac H.,Albert, William and John and sisters Hannah and Elizabeth.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Sarah Elizabeth Duff was born in 1828, and was apprenticed to Timothy Carrow on 5 Nov 1841 for 4 years. In the 1850 Duck Creek Hundred census she is living with her mother Priscilla, 50, who is then married to a Robert Temple, 55, as well as a Josiah Temple who is 5 and Abritta Morris, 8, who may be her sister and a one year old George Stewart, listed as mulatto, who is her son.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Elizabeth Duff marries James Hazzard 23 Jan 1851.She names her second daughter Priscilla so I am assuming her mother is Priscilla Temple. In the 1860 census her children are listed as Priscilla, George,Elizabeth and Shepherd Hazzard. 1870 finds James and Elizabeth Hazzard living in Philadelphia with Frank Hazzard 3, and William ( is this Shepherd?) in the home of a Doctor David Right. James dies 27 Dec 1872 and is buried in Lebanon Cemetery in Philadelphia.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">Someone from the Crippen Dicks family has made corrections to Abritta Morris' name. Since both of these girls were apprenticed to Timothy Carrow of Duck Creek Hundred and Eunity collins lives with Sallie Morris in 1900, I suspect these 2 may be connected in some fashion.</span><br />
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<span style="color: #e69138;">James Morris later marries Sarah E. Davis on June 7, 1883, daughter of Perry and Molesa/Molena Davis and states that his parents are George and Aberella(Abritta). In 1930 he is widowed and living with his mother and a Anna E. Reading in Smyrna.</span><br />
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